Archive:Civilized Space Requests - 2020

Civilized Space Requests - 2020 is an archive log.

Summary[ | ]

Civilized Space Requests - 2020 contains archive records from requests made for Civilized space recognition.

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Application to add Pirates of No Man's Sky to Civilized Space 12/30/2020[ | ]

As leader of Pirates of No Mans Sky, I would like to apply for recognition of my civilization on the Civilized Space page. Our wiki is complete and in good order, containing an embassy page and 5 system pages. If there are any issues, please let me know. Many thanks, PNMS (PNMS) 12:00 am , 30 December (IST)

OK, a couple of things.

on your star pages, please fill out the resources section for each of the planets. This is information that is helpful to anyone visiting your pages and determining which planet(s) they may want to vist. When you add the resources, make them into page links.
On Elvinei-Nagot, what does the name value in the PC-Current section of the Alias Names area stand for?

Once these items are in place, we'll approve your application. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 21:14, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

NOTE: I left a note on your profile page about the United Delta Empire. Please read and reply? Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Your civ is now recognized on the civspace page - welcome! Ddfairchildd (talk) 16:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 10:36, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Application for the League of Galactic Powers to be officially recognized as an Alliance 12/21/2020[ | ]

Hello, on the behalf of all the members of the LGP, I would like to request that the League of Galactic Powers be recognized as an official alliance. We have ensured that our wiki page is up to the gamepedia standard, and we believe that we have reached the criteria to be recognized as well. Please let me know if we are missing any information or have not met the criteria. Thanks, Flashdrive, Leader of White Noise

I have reviewed your embassy page and approved. The five civs you have listed as primary are all valid, recognized civs in the wiki. I encourage the other civs listed with your embassy to achieve recognition status as well. Congratulations. Ddfairchildd (talk) 07:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations. Artifexity (talk) 12:11, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Application for New Nizari to be officially added to Civilized Space 12/18/2020[ | ]

Hello! As the Leader of New Nizari, I would like to request our recognition as a member of Civilized space. I have added an embassy page complete with 5 star systems controlled by New Nizari if I am missing anything please let me know.-Prometheus

As far as I can tell, all requirements have been met. As soon as Ddfairchildd confirms this, New Nizari will be registered as a recognized civilization. I have already adjusted the map. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 14:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

I have reviewed-and-approved your embassy and star pages - welcome to Civilized Space! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Application for the Death Korp Of Euclid to be officially added to Civilized Space 17/12/2020[ | ]

As the Leader of the Death Korp Of Euclid, I would like to request our recognition as a member of Civilized Space. We now have an Embassy page and 5 system pages. If there is anything else that needs adding or changing please let me know. Thank you for your time. C5H12 (talk) 17:03, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Have done a review of your star pages. Two items to address:

1) in the table where the planets/moons are listed, add the resources that are available on each system. Important piece of information for visitors looking for something specific.

2) on Morozova DKE Mining, is this a yellow or a blue star?

Once these are addressed, you should be ready for approval. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 17:24, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

I have amended the pages it should be all good now, thank you. Please let me know if there is anything else. C5H12 (talk) 17:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

OK, have reviewed your pages, and made some adjustments (moved the resources to the proper part of the table, and made them into links). You can review those changes for the next time you do a star page. Anyway, looks like you're good, so welcome to CivSpace. Ddfairchildd (talk) 18:10, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 14:15, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Application to add officially the Pandora-s Consortium to Civilized Space 16/12/2020[ | ]

As an administrator of the PANDORA-S CONSORTIUM and moderator of our Wiki category, I would like to formally request our diplomatic recognition as a member of Civilized space. We have established an embassy page and documented the requisite five star systems. Please let me know if there is anything else we need to do. Thank you for tips that you gave to me. We will continue to add content with pleasure.

Request noted. I will review your pages this week and keep you posted on the results. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 21:42, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Reviews complete and all pages approved. Welcome to Civilized space! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 14:30, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Request for No Man’s High Hub to be categorized as a Hub 12/09/2020[ | ]

The No Man's High Hub requests to be recognized as a Hub size civilization. We have a proper census page, we reached a member count of 24 registered members, 21 of which registered with two types of ID, and we have recently documented a total of 20 star systems. I think we meet all the requirements to obtain the aforementioned status. If not, I'll provide as soon as possible to fill eventual gaps. Thank you. Hotbrown1Cream (talk) 03:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations on reaching a stage that is fairly rare in the NMS Civspace community! You will notice the appropriate starbursts on your embassy page, and the status change in your infobox. Again, congrats on a job well done. Now get a page done for Blue Dream and all will be well :-D Ddfairchildd (talk) 04:56, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Application to add the Intergalactic Coalition of Travelers to Civilized Space Page 2020/12/2[ | ]

I would like to apply my Civilization Intergalactic Coalition of Travelers to be a member of official civilized space on the map and list of civs. Our wiki page is completed fully and I believe we meet all the requirements. Thank you for your consideration, VoidWalker47 (talk) 04:24, 02 December 2020 (UTC)

Left some notes on your user page. Please review and let us know when completed. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:58, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I have updated my wiki and it should be in working order now. I would like to reapply for officiation as a civ if everything is up to spec. Thank you very much for your time. VoidWalker47 (talk) 06:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

I have already adjusted the map. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 13:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Have reviewed your embassy and star pages, and all passes muster. Welcome to Civilized Space! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:55, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

THE GRE IS BACK BABY, AND BETTER THAN EVER!!![ | ]

I'M BACK, BABY, AND WITH ME COMES A WHOLE SLEW OF GRE RESTRUCTURING!!! Now then, where's the Gekatron? Brickticks (talk) 23:45, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Application to add White Noise to Civilized Space Page 2020/11/26[ | ]

Hello, I would like to apply my civ White Noise for official civilized space. Our wiki should be in good order, and I hope you find everything to be well. Thanks, --FlashDrive (talk) 4:32, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Reviewed and approved - welcome! Ddfairchildd (talk) 04:45, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 08:57, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Request to add the No Man's High Hub to Civilized Space 2020-11-19[ | ]

As representative of the No Man's High Hub, I would like to request No Man's High Hub be recognized as a member of civilised space. It looks like we are already on the map, just not in the list of civilizations. I believe we meet the requirements to be included. If not, we will make any changes necessary. Thanks Hotbrown1Cream (talk) 13:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the second requirement: "2) a minimum of five star system pages discovered by the civilization are present in the wiki (and in good order)". At present, I don't believe your civ has any pages in the wiki other than your embassy page. You have a number of stars listed, pick five of your choice and create "star pages in good order" for them. You might want to create one, then have us review it to make sure it fits the bill before you create the others. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 18:20, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The map also lists all new or newly updated civilizations. These are marked as "Under construction" and have not yet been officially recognized. Artifexity (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

OK, have reviewed Nostric-Lis XIII for you. Here are the changes I made:

1) Parameters in the infobox:

multiplestars - leave blank only one star
distance - doesn't need "LY"
economy - split value to also use the "wealth" parameter
platform - needs to be the platform you were on when doing the documenting
civilized - the name of the civ that claims the star

2) Alias names - PC/PS4/Xbox, same requirements as "platform" above

3) Planets/moon table: made the resources into links

4) Space station: made the different items into links

One note - if you have stars/planets/etc that are "discovered" on more than one platform, each platform will need it's own page. And the information on that page should ONLY be information from that specific platform.

Holler if you have any questions - thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 20:07, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I've added data for 5 systems, adjusted with the feedback from the above. I think we meet the base requirements for a civilization now. Obviously we will continue to update our discoveries as they come in. ([[User

talk:Hotbrown1Cream|talk]]) 18:00, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Have reviewed your pages and made changes as necessary. Would suggest you go back and use the History tab on each page to review the changes; will make it easier when creating pages in the future. Have added you to the civspace page - welcome! Ddfairchildd (talk) 22:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Welcome! --Artifexity (talk) 08:57, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Request to add The Chivalric Knights of the Order of Iteration to Civilized Space, 16NOV2020[ | ]

As the Grand Master of the The Chivalric Knights of the Order of Iteration, I would like to respectfully request our diplomatic recognition as a member of civilized space. We have established an embassy page and documented the requisite five star systems. Should our endeavors fall short, we will rectify them, immediately. Further, our efforts are not complete, as our documentation is ongoing. Thank you for your time. DarkBlade463 (talk) 17:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

pages reviewed and approved - welcome to Civilized Space! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:22, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 09:49, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Request to add the Eye Of the Korvax Legion to Civilized Space 2020-11-10[ | ]

As a representative of the Eye Of the Korvax Legion appointed by our High Council, i formally request our diplomatic recognition as a member of civilised space. All the prerequisite have been made to ensure our seriousness in the matter, if not, we are fully open to any change necessary to be made. It would be a honor for our Nation to be part of yours, a comemoration date will be determined upon acceptance of this demand. kind regards, EOK-BAKA, disciple of EOK Legion.

I will review your request and will have an answer for you shortly. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 08:49, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

I have moved your Civ to the Civilized Space page.

Two things you do need to check on:

1) Make sure that the resources in your planet/moon tables are links, but not duplicate links

2) get those red links taken care of soon as you can.

Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:09, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Welcome! Artifexity (talk) 16:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for that, this day will be remenbered. those red link will be taking care of as fast as we can.

Request to add Seventh Fleet to Civilized Space 2020-10-25[ | ]

As a representative of the Seventh Fleet and co-leader of its colonization efforts, I would like to formally request our diplomatic recognition as a member of civilized space. We have established an embassy page and documented the requisite five star systems. Please let me know if there is anything else we need to do. Thank you for your time. --Mjones713 (talk) 21:25, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

One item for your star pages. In the planet/moon table, the resources need to be spelled out instead of abbreviated. The only place where abbreviations are used is in the planet infobox, and that's to save space.

Also - when making those updates, if you have more than one reference to a page (say Copper), then only the first one is turned into a link. The other references would be left as plain text.

Other than that, everything looks good. Let me know when those changes have been made, and you should be ready to go. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 15:27, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Planet pages look great - your civ has been added to the CivSpace page. Welcome! Ddfairchildd (talk) 00:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! --Mjones713 (talk) 02:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Request to be categorized as Hub 10/10/2020[ | ]

The Black Star Order requests to be recognized as Hub size civilization. We have a proper census page, we reached a member count of 22 total members, 20 of which registered with two types of ID, and we have recently documented a total of 20 star systems. I think we meet all the requirements to obtain the aforementioned status. If not, I'll provide as soon as possible to fill eventual gaps. Thank you. Juseppe001 (talk) 13:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, all requirements are met. I have already adjusted the map accordingly. For a final assessment and the establishment of the Hub star for BSO, we are still waiting for Ddfairchildd's assessments. Congratulations! Artifexity (talk) 14:13, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Updates have been made - welcome to a rather exclusive club! Ddfairchildd (talk) 16:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Application to be added to Civilized Space 10/5/2020[ | ]

(Apologies as I don't know how editing pages works) The Solar Federation would like to formally request recognition as a civilized nation. There are currently 11 star systems under the banner most with a colony or outpost present. We are based towards the edge of the Euclid galaxy in the Eddayaki Boundary (I may have spelt that wrong).

The Solar Federation is dedicated to the research and control of technology including Sentinels, the Korvax and even Atlas itself. The Federation is xenophobic, allowing only humans to become citizens. We are open to peace with other nations, but alliances are reviewed on a case by case basis. We do not tolerate piracy.

Our home system is Igonnin-Jot. This civilization is creative only for now, but it will be moved to normal soon. We have a ranking system and a uniform. All are welcome to join. Provided you're not an alien of course.

Thanks for your time.

Yours faithfully,

Doctor Gremlin Grand President Solar Federation

Hold the Red Star proudly, high in hand.

OK, couple of items.

1) I've reviewed your embassy page (which I renamed to Solar Federation) and made some changes. You can review those at your leisure.

2) You will need to update the Government field (look here for ideas: ) and the Type field (some examples might be Documentation, Military, Fanfiction, Roleplay, Construction, etc)

3) the requirements state that "a minimum of five star system pages discovered by the civilization are present in the wiki (and in good order)" which means you need to have at least five star pages created in the wiki as well as your embassy page.

My suggestion here is for you to create one star page, and let me give it a review. Once the page looks good, then you can use it as an example for creating the remaining pages.

Let me know if you have any questions - thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 15:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Marked complete due to no response after five months Ddfairchildd (talk) 19:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Multiple changes to the EPM 10/01/2020[ | ]

Hello, with the release of Origins the EPM has underwent many changes. We have relocated (again) to a far location, in the 70th Galaxy Husalvangewi at these coordinates: 07D2:0070:07D3:0014 and I would love it if our location is changed on the starmap.

Also I tweaked the summary section in our embassy page to reflect on these changes, so would it be possible for the description of the EPM to be changed to this:
"The Empire of Phantomium Marxium is a community of Xbox Travellers that moved from Euclid and are now settled in the Mokyharra Band and neighbouring regions of the Husalvangewi galaxy. Its aim is to assist all Xbox Travellers and the Xbox universe in general by organizing it via any means." Blek456 (talk) 15:59, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

I've moved you to a new section for galaxy 70. Our cartographer will get the maps updated in the near future. Ddfairchildd (talk) 17:12, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. The map has been adjusted accordingly. Artifexity (talk) 09:24, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks to both of you! Blek456 (talk) 10:22, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Request for Lanny Poo Empire to be put back on map 9/21/2020[ | ]

Hello just wanted to see if I could get the Lanny Poo Empire back on the map I believe we still meet all the requirements

Only civilizations and recognized companies that have updated their embassy pages since the release of Living Ship are listed on the map. Lanny Poo Empire's embassy page has not been updated since Synthesis. I have now updated the embassy page for you and added Lanny Poo Empire to the map. Thanks. Artifexity (talk) 12:42, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Request to have "League of Super Evil" recognized as a Civilized Space community 9/21/2020[ | ]

We are the League of Super Evil [L.O.S.E]. We are an independent commune committed to maintaining independent colonies, as well as pursuing ethical, private research on the Sentinels at our own discretion.

We believe we meet every prerequisite, and look forward to the possibilities.

See you in the Stars. - (League of Super Evil)

- [L.O.S.E] Co-Founder TheOmniKy (talk) 08:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC) TheOmniKy (talk)

Have done some quick reviews and have these comments:

1) is LOSE a company or a civ? Your embassy page says a company, but you ask to be recognized as a civspace. Want to make sure so it gets loaded on the correct page.

2) Per the requirements, five star pages are required, and I only see three. In addition, the star pages that you do have listed need to comply with our page standards (as the requirement says, "in good order"). If you look at the Template:Star System preload page, you can see the various sections that are expected on this type of page.

3) when creating pages in the future of any type, you'll find that using the "preload" templates will make your job easier

4) it's a good idea to use the History tab on a page to review changes that may be made to it. This helps you recognize issues on how to do future pages. For example, the pictures in an infobox aren't done as thumbs or files; we've made this change to most (if not all) of your pages for you.

So - go ahead and update your star pages as noted on item 2. Once those are done, add a note here and we'll give them another review. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 15:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Due to lack of response, this request will be considered abandoned. Ddfairchildd (talk) 00:45, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Request to have the Sepros Alliance recognized as a civilized space community 9/16/2020[ | ]

Hello! The following is a request to have Sepros Alliance be recognized as a civilized space community. I feel I meet the requirements necessary and plan to build on it in the future. Thank you! Gallusdallas' (talk) 03:55, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Have reviewed your pages and embassy page, made various changes (feel free to review these for future pages) and everything looks in order. I'll ask our cartographer to add you to the map; I've added your civ to the main page. Thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:44, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Sepros Alliance was added to the map. Since no capital system is given, I took the coordinates from the glyphs of the Abujava-Rotux star system. Thank you. Artifexity (talk) 09:11, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion for Civilized Space History addition 08/13/20[ | ]

Hello, the BSO Chancellor here. I am not sure if this idea is already in process, but I would like to suggest adding the first live concert in NMS history to the Civilized Space History page as a recognized historical event. The concert, organized and performed by The Qitanian Empire founder EdVintage, has been a fantastic community event that involved several civilization representatives as spectators. The performance was great, Kash Karoon is a real artist, in my opinion it is a really awsome and original idea, it represents a true addition to the community activity. I am surprised this event is not already listed in the records, but as I said, it could already be in process without me knowing it. Thanks for your work, have a nice day. Juseppe001 (talk) 12:46, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Juseppe001, I absolutely agree. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten around to working this out yet. Could you prepare a little text that I could use for this? Perhaps we could continue elaborating in the Talk:Civilized Space History. Thank you for the suggestion. Artifexity (talk) 14:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Request to have The Elmhurst Hermitage recognized as a Civilized Space Community 8/05/20[ | ]

Hello! I'm trying to learn how to add pages and edit the Wiki so that The Elmhurst Hermitage can become a recognized Civ Space Comm. I have so far created a page for the civ, for the region that houses the Hermitage, Lozunoz Cloud, and for one system in that system, but I think my formatting is off for most of them, especially the star system (named [ELM-B1-44] Ettsum if that helps). If I can find some help getting my first star system page in order, I can create the others based off that. Thanks for everything so far and thanks in advance for the help! Elmhurst (talk) 03:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the wiki, and thanks for your contribs so far.

My first tip is to create your pages using our predefined templates. The page you've been using is supposed to be a discussion page, which makes things more difficult. I've moved each of the pages you tried to create to be an actual page in the wiki. As far as for future use, on the front page of the wiki is a white box with a green CREATE PAGE button on it. Just type in the name of the page you want to make and hit the button. You will be taken to a page with a lot of "blue links" on it. The upper half contains default pages for just about any type of page you'd want. Click the one you want, and fill in the data as required.

One thing to note (and you may want to change your naming schemes) is that square brackets are reserved in the wiki for creating links. So it will be much easier to build your pages properly if your star systems etc don't include them.

the strange issue you saw on your star page is due to the fact that you used the coords macro in the infobox. It's ok to use that macro on the page itself, but in the infobox, it's got to be straight text.

one good way to learn the ways of the wiki is to always look at the changes that others make to your pages and figure out why the changes were made. You can look at the changes by looking at the History pages for any particular page.

Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the help and advice! I can't believe I looked around and didn't see that "create page button." Yeesh. But thanks for your gracious directions; I'll report back when I have the requisites for a Galactic Civ in order. Oh! And since brackets seem like a no-go, anything in the way of other punctuation? Parentheses, asterisks, carrot-brackets? Thanks again for the assistance! Elmhurst (talk) 05:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

My personal preference? Just give it a name without any punctuation wrapped around the prefix. IMHO, ELM-B1-44 Ettsum works just fine. Ddfairchild (talk) 05:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I have reviewed your pages and as they appear to qualify, your civ has been placed on the Civilizations official page - thanks! Ddfairchildd (talk) 14:06, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I appreciate the help. Oh, and I'd like to opt in to the editing security mentioned in the May post below (5/26). Is there anything I need to do for that? Thanks again! Elmhurst (talk) 05:11, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Your embassy page is now protected as referenced below. Ddfairchildd (talk) 06:10, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Map update 7/13/20[ | ]

The map has been adjusted. All civilizations that have not updated their embassy pages since Synthesis have been removed.

Request to have White Noise Recognized as a Civilized Space Community 7/6/20[ | ]

Hello. I would like to submit a request for my civ, White Noise, to be recognized. The wiki page is in good shape, and as the community grows, the wiki and its information will grow with it. Flashdrive2020 (talk) 16:38, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

I've reviewed your embassy page and made some needed adjustments, so that requirement is now completed. For your civ to be placed on the regular civspace page, you'll need to have actual pages in the wiki for the five stars you have listed. My suggestion is that you create one of them (using the standard Star preload template) and have us review it for you. Once that's done, you can build your other pages based on the first one. Thanks much! Ddfairchild (talk) 17:17, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Due to lack of response, this request will be considered abandoned. Ddfairchildd (talk) 00:44, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Request for GCAS civ space Update 6/29/20[ | ]

In order to better fulfill our primary goals of exploration and research, the Grand Conjunction is aligning towards a more neutral and uninvolved stance towards the galactic stage. For that reason, the GCAS has exited from UFT membership. The GCAS would also like to request updating our Navigation Zone description to the following: "Their mission is to decipher the mysteries of the universe through exploration, research, and documentation." Thank you. Ertosiangel (talk) 02:59, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Change has been completed as requested. Ddfairchild (talk) 03:21, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

The map has been adjusted accordingly. Artifexity (talk) 10:08, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I noticed the UFT page still lists us on the Federation Civilizations table as a member. I would remove it myself but the page is locked. Thanks again, Ertosiangel (talk) 12:56, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The text entry has been removed from the page. Ddfairchild (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Request for The Viridian Assembly of Eissentam to be inculuded as an official civ 6/15/20[ | ]

I've just finished up documenting my 5 star systems but I'm not sure exactly what "in good order" means as far as their pages. I'm still figuring all of this out, but if everything looks good then I am requesting that The VAE be included on the Civilized Space page. If there's still work that needs to be done on the pages just let me know what I have to do and I'll get on it. Thank you Mattastic119 22:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Mattastic119, I have adjusted the color assignment of The Viridian Assembly of Eissentam on the map accordingly. As far as I can tell, the entries are sufficient for recognition, but we are waiting for Ddfairchild's assessment. Artifexity (talk) 08:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I've reviewed your embassy and star pages. Please review the changes I made to the various star pages for future reference, we hope you'll be adding additional pages <grin>. If you would, there is a Location section on our star pages - if you can fill in some of this information, at minimum the coords for the system? Once that's been done, we'll get your entry added to the civspace page. Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 19:55, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I've added glyph's and Coordinates to the Location section of each of the 5 star systems I currently have listed. Please take a look and let me know if anything else needs to be done at this time. Thank you. Mattastic119 (talk) 21:57, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to Civspace - may you explore and document many more systemsDdfairchild (talk) 05:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Resignation of the EPM as a Hub 6/4/2020[ | ]

Hello there!
As you already know prior to the Federation's polls about Hub requirements the EPM reached the old requirements to be a Hub. Considering the new requirements however that is no longer the case. While I personally fully support the requirements that have been put in place, and also believe that the 60 days given for the current Hubs to work on the new requirements is far more than just reasonable, I don't believe that the EPM will be able to fulfil them in time. In addition I personally think it will put some pressure on us on finishing the requirements, which may sway our attention away from other ideas and projects we have. I certainly will be continuing to create pages relative to the EPM for systems and what not (although my schedule has been really busy recently) and will most likely work on becoming a Hub again at a much slower pace, basically on the background while other things take priority. In the meantime I'd like to thank Ddfairchild for the cool banner he created that is used on our embassy page, even if the EPM's status as a Hub is short-lived the banner sure looks great. Blek456 (talk)5, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Blek456, there may be only one Hub left at the end of the transition period. The hurdles are high. This gives the term Hub a greater meaning. As a map maker, I consider how I can continue to integrate the Hubs of the previous rule into the map. I think we just need another category between Standard and Hub. Artifexity (talk) 09:34, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

I agree, the meaning of Hub status is definitely shining the way it has been voted. Your efforts as a map maker are certainly appreciated and regarding the old Hub integration, I also agree that it will be most beneficial for a new category to be created between Standard and Hub. Ever since the change in the requirements for Hub status there's a big gap between Standard and Hub requirements. This will definitely need more discussion though. Blek456 (talk) 22:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

On the civilized space map I have marked all civilizations as Mega that have registered over 15 members but have not yet reached hub status (including wiki-independent civs). This is a first attempt to fill the gap. At the latest when the transition period has ended, we will start a further discussion in the Federation together with the Census Department. Artifexity (talk) 12:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

That more or less solves my issue, thank you! Currently seeing how there's more focus on the Pillar of the Federation I think we should wait a little bit until that is done. Shouldn't take that much time I think, it will surely be before the transition period ends. After that further discussion for the gap and the implementation of Mega can start without any interferences. That's my take on this at least. Blek456 (talk) 16:38, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Request a Conversation and Evaluation of our Civ Space Security 5/26/2020[ | ]

I propose all main Civ space pages (Civs/Companies) be given minimum editing security. By minimum I mean all edits to the main Civ page be from registered users only as in: This page has been protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. There is already a civ space requirement that the wiki have a registered contact, it doesn't seem a stretch that only registered users be responsible for edits to a registered civ space page. To clarify this is only for the main civ page, I propose no changes to any other current page. What does the community think? Intothedoor (talk) 17:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Couple of thoughts. I would allow the civ to make this decision instead of making it a requirement. For example, some civs keep their census on the civspace page. If you keep out anon editors, some people wouldn't be able to add their name to the census. I would also restrict this to civs that officially request to be a part of the civspace page. As part of the review process, the civ would be asked if they wanted this security or not. Ddfairchild (talk) 18:13, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea. How do we let people know that this is available if they want it? Intothedoor (talk) 17:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

If you are asking for the community opinion, I presume that it is fair to give mine. As Ddfairchild said, I believe it should be optional for the civilization to choose. A civilization may opt in for the extra security so that plagiarism similar to recent events does not occur, but on the contrary, there are census pages on civilizations that anon editors would not be able to access with this rule or perhaps they would be locked out of making necessary changes even with the trust of the civilization. Drocasma (talk) 18:45, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

If an individual is not concerned with this type of security, I agree, we should not force it upon people. If a census is the issue it is easy enough to make a separate page, but it is something to consider. Of course doing all this still doesn't prevent people from messing with others work but it my help.Intothedoor (talk) 17:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

This is a really important request. The misuse has increased recently in this regard. I would agree with Ddfairchild's suggestion and explanation. Artifexity (talk) 10:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

From what little I know about computers it seems that with the use of a VPN an ill-intentioned editor can spam an unlimited amount of anonymous internet IPs to use as a means to vandalize our wiki. I agree tho some people my not want this level of security, and it is best to leave it optional. I asked Dave too: How do we let people know this is available if they want it?Intothedoor (talk) 17:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

When a civ requests to be included as an "official civ", I will reply with a message asking if they would like this added security. As I review their embassy page and valid star and other pages, I will set the flag if they so request. I won't add them to the civspace page until we get an answer back one way or the other. Their answer will be recorded on this talk page, so we'll have a record of the civs that requested it, and those that declined. Ddfairchild (talk) 19:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Crimson Arc Map Update Request 5/20/2020[ | ]

The Crimson Arc has expanded to all platforms and has a tangible presence in every platform as well. As such, we would like to request the Civilized space map to be changed to reflect this update in what platforms the Crimson Arc encompasses. We would also like this change to be made on the Federation map as well, but are not sure if this is the correct thread to include this second request. Drocasma (talk) 16:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

The maps have been updated. Artifexity (talk) 06:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Crimson Arc Size Update Request 5/5/2020[ | ]

The Crimson Arc officially has six members, and can now be categorized as a Standard civilization according to the Civilized space categories page. I would like to request acknowledge of this update on the Civilized space map. Thank you. Drocasma (talk) 01:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Drocasma, the civilized space map does not contain a category (except Hubs) that indicates the size of a civilization. So far this is only the case on the Federation map. Artifexity (talk) 11:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

My bad, I must have confused the Civilized space map with the Federation map. Thank you for the clarification! Drocasma (talk) 13:08, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

GRE Map Update Request 5/4/20[ | ]

So, um, not sure where else to put this, but, uh, the Eissentam Galactic Map on the GRE's page could do with an update, it, uh, still seems to be from the, I'm guessing Beyond Update, but it may also be from Atlas Rises. So, yeah, the GRE's Galactic Map is really out of date, and sadly I have no idea how to fix this, and just wanted to make sure before I try anything that it's OK to do so. So, yeah, that's kinda it. Rockatoa, Brickticks (talk) 15:12, 4 May 2020 (UTC) out!

Map has been updated. Previous map was added in December 2018, Visions release. In future, all you need to do is take a screen clip from the map on the CivSpace page that shows Eissentam. Upload it, and change your page to show the new image. Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 16:44, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! Rockatoa, Brickticks (talk) 00:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC) out!

Request for The Crimson Arc's Inclusion in Civilized Space 5/2/2020[ | ]

As the founder of the Crimson Arc, I am formally requesting the inclusion of the Crimson Arc as a Civilization. We have completed all the criteria for inclusion detailed in this wiki and would like to be considered for recognition and inclusion as a Civilized Space. Furthermore, our capitol has changed, and we would appreciate it if our location was updated on the Civilized Space star map. Drocasma (talk) 22:38, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Have done a quick review of your star system pages. I made a variety of changes to Pravil (ARC) so that the page adheres to our wiki guidelines. You can review these changes by looking at the History tab for the page. These changes included combining the planet tables into one, adding resource links in the table, setting max size for pics to 200px, and adding back missing section headers. If you would revisit Haraza-Shuya (ARC), Ennonqu-Daiad (ARC), and Ekkinti (ARC) and make sure those changes are also made to those three pages? Once done, let us know and I will review once again.

Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 03:36, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Drocasma, the map has been updated. As soon as the Crimson Arc is officially recognized, I will adjust the coloring accordingly. Artifexity (talk) 07:58, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate all the help and guidance! We have made the changes as requested and have also polished up our other pages as well. Can you please revisit consideration for our inclusion in Civilized Space? If we have missed something, or need to fulfill further criteria, please let us know. Thanks! Drocasma (talk) 13:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Have reviewed your pages and made a couple of other changes, you can review at your leisure. You've now been added to the CivSpace page - welcome to Civilization! Ddfairchild (talk) 06:18, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Application For Official Inclusion In Civilized Space 4/13/20[ | ]

Owner of The Union Of Communal Stars formally requests inclusion and recognition as an established and recognized Civilization. Due to inaccessibility to No Man's Sky, we are unable to properly add pages for our remaining star systems, however, any member of the wiki is gladly allowed to visit the systems themselves to confirm our claim over them. The region has been experiencing an issue with renaming, and several planets and systems are constantly shifting names from the original names to the renamed ones. It is therefore requested to check the validity of the claims via discoverer name, TheDarkness473-, and not system names. The pages of the remaining systems shall be added as soon as we are sure of the rename issue being fixed, and once all data and images are in good order. Thank you. Eclipsed void16 (talk) 08:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I am also on PS4 and can tell you first hand that the default names on any of these star systems is very important to know (there is a section on the wiki page template which you can list the default name). The default names are the ones that will primarily show while you are in the Galactic Map; sometimes going back and forth between selecting different star systems (still while in the Galactic Map) will bring up the new uploaded name, but it can be a crap shoot and specially after an update and definitely if you haven't explored a region in a long period of time. If you were to warp into a system you have already uploaded the name you created will be there. I still have star systems named back during Altas Rises that still have kept their name even when the system itself has changed dramatically because of the game updates. I suggest taking pictures of your system to show what you named it but also don't for get that default name, because in the end that name will save you if you are looking for that system. Also, here is a good way to convert coords to glyphs and vise versa: https://nmsportals.github.io/ have a good day!Intothedoor (talk) 17:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your request. Once the five star pages for your civ are documented in the wiki, and your embassy page is available, we can revisit your request. Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 14:29, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response! Thank you for alerting me of this issue. Ive gone and documented many systems and photographed their original names, and shall be adding them soon. I have 2 more systems to add, however, this is a very slow and cumbersome process for one person alone. There are many more things i need to do for making this Civ, and going in alone is hard. Thanks for your help though! Eclipsed void16 (talk) 08:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Due to lack of response, this request will be considered abandoned. Ddfairchildd (talk) 00:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Cosmic Cooperative 4/5/2020[ | ]

The Cosmic Cooperative needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY from the Civilized space page and map as they are responsible for the recent vandalism. 194.187.249.18 21:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

If you have concrete proof of this, please provide whatever information you may have. I'm sure you understand that we can take no actions based on the request of an anon editor. Ddfairchild (talk) 21:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

We don't need proof, it's fairly obvious they are doing it for attention. 194.187.249.18 21:12, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

I assume you are unfamiliar with the "innocent until proven guilty" clause. As a reminder, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 11, states: "Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law..." Thank you. Ddfairchild (talk) 21:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

The Cosmic Cooperative needs to be removed not only from the Civilized space page, but the entire No Man's Sky Gamepedia as well. Mrjordanmurphy47271 (talk) 21:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Why are you linking your comment to MrJordanMurphys profile? I corrected that and will take further measures. --Artifexity (talk) 22:26, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Per the real MrJordanMurphy, the Mrjordanmurphy47271 account is fake. Ddfairchild (talk) 23:26, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Joining the UFT 4/3/2020[ | ]

The Three Sons Syndicate would like to request membership into the UFT. The TSS has completed all requirements and will contact the vexillology department right after acceptance. Ravensfan620 (talk) 03:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello Ravensfan620, as already discussed I think that all membership requirements are met. We still need Ddfairchild's assessment, as the requirements for recognition on this page are identical to those of the Federation. In this way we avoid different recognition systems. Thank you. Artifexity (talk) 08:14, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

I have reviewed your embassy, star, and planet pages and all pass the checklist. Have added you to the page; welcome to Civilized Space! Ddfairchild (talk) 06:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for Inclusion March 30 2020[ | ]

Can the Maya Technology Corporation be placed on the map now? We have done the requirements several days ago but we haven’t been placed on the map. We are also part of the AGT so please mark us accordingly. Thanks. Maya tech corp (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

That's because you are looking at the Civilized Space map, instead of the Company map. Your company was added there on March 25, and the actual coordinates were added March 27. Also, based on the notes on the Company discussion page, it looks like the requirements for your company were completed on March 26, not several weeks ago. Thanks, we good? Ddfairchild (talk) 19:33, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to say days. Corrected. Many other companies are on the Civilized space map, but we aren’t? That’s what I meant. Maya tech corp (talk) 20:09, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

I added Maya Technology Corporation to the civilized space map. I had overlooked it due to the many changes in the past few days. This map actually lists companies that meet the requirements. I didn't communicate that correctly. I am sorry for the emergence of misunderstandings. Another question: I would be interested to know how the Maya Tech Corp is related to the Federation. Is the company an independent extension of the AGT similar to the Galactic Hubs? If so, Maya Tech Corp could become a official member of the Federation. Artifexity (talk) 10:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Proposal to edit the format of the Civ Space Page 3-27-2020[ | ]

I would like you to consider these edits to the page. As the main Civ page its really a splash page for all of us. I created a test page here: User:Intothedoor/Tester2 Intothedoor (talk) 09:42, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm OK with adding the additional HUB requirements once they are defined. Not so OK with adding the list of companies. We wouldn't list Starships on a page dedicated to Multitools, and I don't think we should list companies on a page dedicated to CivSpaces. The current page has a reference to the Company page and points to it, which is where the company lists can be found. Thoughts? Ddfairchild (talk) 14:34, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Here is the mind set of my proposed changes - 1) Civ space is everyone, Business included, and when leaving us out I believe it is a disservice to the whole civ space page and a slight slap in the face to business like InExCor, GenBra, and CELAB (to name a few). 2) The map on that page is everyone, Business included, so the tone was set for inclusion. 3) if the page seems too long I suggest trimming the civilization explanations and making a page that is Civilizations only, civ map exclusive, plus definitions just as the business page. I understand Business was an added civ space but we are integrated in the civ space as a whole and considering the top three wiki editors are businesses I think we have well proven ourselves for inclusion. And looking at the page I feel it is more united. Thoughts? Intothedoor (talk) 00:33, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Who is defining the new HUB requirements exactly? Would it just be the main editor of every active civilization's embassy page? Winter naut (talk) 15:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

The original size definitions and their text descriptions were defined by the Federation, and the wiki has adopted the rules for application here on our embassy pages. If the Fed changes their definitions, we will follow their lead. Ddfairchild (talk)

So you're saying other HUB civilizations like Amino Hub and Cosmic Cooperative wouldn’t get a say in a decision such as this? Even though they adopted the policy I don't see how it would be very fair. Metropolis civilizations don’t get to go around changing everyone's government type so it should remain the same for both. But that's just my opinion. One of the possibilities for HUB requirements was a certain number of bases counted by Fed-chosen individuals, and CC has private colonies with a majority of the bases (since I left, at least.) I'm not from there anymore but I do see issues that could rise from that. Winter naut (talk) 20:15, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

From what I have been told you are not part of either of these Civilizations, nor a leader of any Civ for that matter. Those who are a current HUB have no worry about meeting new requirements (is my assumption), plus does it really matter when some civs just write down whatever they want? A census can literally be made up from scratch, star systems are barely documented. I mean the CC still states its the 2nd largest Civ in NMS (with 17 reddit subscribers and less then 40 pages total in the wiki) but does it really matter?, at a point what do we at the wiki do?
Now I apologize for sounding harsh, I am not here to grind an axe with you or deal with the CC in any way. The goal here in the wiki and in Civ Space as a whole is to play with other NMS players and to be apart of a growing community, to inform, document and to help. The goal of any requirements assists the wiki in categorizing and it 'should' be a place of helpful information for our readers. You and I may have our differences but when talks begin within the Fed I welcome your thoughts on requirements, many of the ideas have been tossed around and many people have ideas, the problem is there is a reality here that we need to consider and that is the balance the Fed, the wiki, and every editor needs to make. My goal is to help define us not divide.
feel free to write down your definition of a HUB: is it just people, is it just the story one tells?, is it the amount of wiki work one does? Or the number of different editors work on their wiki, is it a single planet with many bases? or is it the Reddit/Discord subscribers, or Facebook friends? it is hard to define, and that will remain the struggle no matter what happens with any new 'requirements'. There is no police to equalize the whole community we police ourselves and at the end of the day we have to take each editors word at face value.Intothedoor (talk) 00:33, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Hmm where does CC still say it is the 2nd largest? And also, CC's reddit isn’t even used at all, Discord is their main platform. But HUB recognition should be based on a number of factors, with no strict necessities. E.g.: If one civilization has a ton of wiki editors but not a lot of social platform subscribers, they could still be a HUB. Winter naut (talk) 00:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

HUB recognition should be based on a number of factors - This is something I completely agree on, so the challenge is finding those multiple factors. Some may say GenBra is a HUB of information; however, that is the least of my worries. So finding common ground with as many as possible can be hard but if we all approach it as a way to help the wiki (and the players of NMS) then I think we will get there. Right now all we have as a requirement is 15 people written down in a census, and that seems totally inept to show HUB status (in my opinion). And I'll tell you now that I wouldn't want to alienate those who have already made it to HUB status, so there needs to be a compromise. My recommendations will be a few more people, a proper census and a little extra wiki work. Doesn't mean it will pass as I am only of one opinion and some feel as though there will be HUB police out there checking civs and there is just no time/man-power and so on. The Federation may operate in it's own interest and do such 'base checks' as should any alliance but my main concern is the wiki, the information within and the strength of this information. Intothedoor (talk) 02:09, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

That will be a choice, then, that civilizations will need to make. The Fed is the largest group of civilizations in the NMS community, and I do not believe they make their decisions lightly. There are current civs who have chosen to forgo the chance to put the HUB label on their embassy page, as they are not interested in meeting the size requirement. And that is their choice. If new requirements are decided on, then there may be civs that will choose not to meet the new requirements either. And again, that is their choice. Ddfairchild (talk) 21:34, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

EPM Description Change 25/03/2020[ | ]

Hello, would it be possible for the description of the EPM to be changed to this:

"The Empire of Phantomium Marxium is a community of Xbox Travellers settled in the Quvele Adjunct and neighbouring regions of the Euclid galaxy. Its aim is to assist all Xbox Travellers and the Xbox universe in general by organizing it via any means."

I recently updated the Embassy page's Summary section to be more organized, so that's where this change is coming from. Thank you.
Blek456 (talk) 15:35, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Completed. Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 18:08, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Application to be added to the Civilized Space wiki page. 21/3/20[ | ]

The Empire of Bizent would like to request to be be added to the Civilized Space page. We have our Wiki pages in good order, and will continue to add and correct any errors in our Wiki page/s. We believe we are big enough to have recognition, and be listed on the Civilized Space page.

Emperor of Bizent, Can. Imnotacan1 (talk) 12:25, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Imnotacan1, we are waiting for Ddfairchild's assessment. In my opinion, all the requirements should be met. The map has been updatet. Artifexity (talk) 09:46, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you for your reply. Imnotacan1 (talk) 17:41, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Have reviewed your pages and found them to be in order (other than the system categories which I added for you). Have added you to the civspace page - welcome to Civilized Space! Ddfairchild (talk) 01:39, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Application for the Federation and listing on the CivSpace Page —Kekende Fellowship 11/3/20[ | ]

Hello, the Kekende Fellowship would like to join the Federation and be listed on the Civilized space page as we have now met all requirements.

Kekende Fellowship — a group of travellers focused on casually exploring and building bases in the Kekende region together as well as setting up a HUB for all PS4 Survival mode players to live at.

Ilyjarolin (talk) 22:13, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

You've made a great start getting your information out there! However, I'd like to see a bit more information on your star system pages themselves, other than just the infobox. My suggestions would be to complete the Planets and Moons section, add a pic to the infobox, and add the coordinate glyphs. Everything else looks good. Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 00:20, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Ilyjarolin, the Federation has almost the same requirements as those for recognition on this page. In this respect, follow the Ddfairchild instructions and you are on the right track for membership in the Federation. Furthermore, Kekende Fellowship has to provide a flag and a banner in the Federation Vexillology Department. Am I correct in assuming that -ilyJarolin is the contact person for Kekende Fellowship in Reddit? Artifexity (talk) 10:59, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Artifexity, my reddit is ily-Jarolin. I will upload a flag shortly. Ilyjarolin (talk) 12:38, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Do I need to add anything else? My reddit is ily-Jarolin Ilyjarolin (talk) 16:06, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

As already pointed out by Ddfairchild, the planets & moons sections are still incomplete for almost all star systems. I ask you to discuss the missing points with Ddfairchild. As soon as Ddfairchild adds your civilization to the civilized space page, the requirements for membership in the Federation are also met. Thank you. Artifexity (talk) 16:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

The page for Yirusti looks great as far as updating the planet table, infobox pic, etc. Once the other star systems pages are updated in the same way, you'll be good to go. Thanks! Ddfairchild (talk) 04:52, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

I have completed documentation of the other systems Ilyjarolin (talk) 01:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for putting the effort into updating your pages, will give you a thumbs up. Will add your civ to the civspace page this evening. Welcome to the community! Ddfairchild (talk) 02:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Glad to see another Metropolis civilization! Winter naut (talk) 18:00, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Can the EPM be classified as a Hub? 9/3/2020[ | ]

Hello, the EPM has been expanding and we recently managed to achieve 15 registered members, who have built a base in our capital system and have shown activity on our Discord Server. I'd like to know if there are any other steps that are needed to be taken for the EPM to be considered as a Hub. If not, would it be possible to update the Civpage and the Map. While it's not something I like to focus on, I think being a Hub might be able to help the EPM.
Blek456 (talk) 21:14, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

This is great news for the EPM! Congrats! Now, I do not make the decisions around here but I was looking at your page and I am wondering if you have ever seen the Census page template? As an example: Census - Empire of Achenar, it helps separate the user name, social media name and leaves room for adding your base or system, know who has a race track and other things that probably could be added. Also the top of the page leaves room for a list of your regions, the instructions or other info you want people to have when signing into your civilization. Most importantly if you have newer players signing your census (cause I assume you will only grow) you won't have people editing your main page but only the Census page. Honesty, it is something that I might be bringing up in the Federations Census Dept. Discussions as a standard template all medium to Large civz should use, but at the same time this is only a suggestion and not current voted on requirements. For me well maintained wiki is a sign of a premiere civilization, but then again I am a wiki nerd.Intothedoor (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

I have created a specific census page for the EPM - you can find it here: Census - Empire of Phantomium Marxium. At present, there are roughly 40 civs (out of the 250 or so with embassies in the wiki) that are considered large enough and stable enough to warrant their own census page. So congratulations! Ddfairchild (talk) 02:10, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion! It appears that Ddfairchild was faster and created the page for me, which I am grateful for. I'll manage census information from there and try to get some more info on every member that has joined up until now. Blek456 (talk) 08:51, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Blek456, I have marked the Empire of Phantomium Marxium on the maps as a Hub. According to the previous regulation, 15 members are sufficient for recognition. As soon as the current discussions and polls within the Federation on the subject of the Hub have been completed, I will rethink the procedure regarding the map. The marking may then be reversed for some civilizations. Artifexity (talk) 14:29, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Application to join Civilized space and the UFT 7/3/2020[ | ]

The Grand Conjunction of Aligned Systems would like to formally request joining Civilized space as well as the United Federation of Travelers. The Grand Conjunction feels our common goals are auspiciously aligned and look forward to our future contribution to all peoples of the Euclid and beyond. Our primary regional documentation has been uploaded to your galactic databanks and should be in good order; kindly let us know of any errors and they will be swiftly corrected. Expect further data packets to be regularly uploaded once a permanent datalink has been established. -First Servant of the People Ertosi; Ertosiangel (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Ertosiangel, as far as I can tell, Grand Conjunction of Aligned Systems meets all requirements. I added your civilization on the map. For the entry on the page I am waiting for the assessment of administrator Ddfairchild. For membership in the Federation you need a Reddit account, because the main website of the Federation is on Reddit. As soon as the account is created, we can discuss the further procedure. Thank you. --Artifexity (talk) 16:33, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for relaying the proper coordinates for further communications with the UFT. We have broadcast a hailing frequency there and eagerly await their reply. While we had hoped to never again have dealings with the unreliable MegaCorp Reddit, we have granted this concession in good faith with the hope of contributing to a greater galaxy. Ertosiangel (talk) 17:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Federation! https://www.reddit.com/r/NMS_Federation/comments/ffwfnf/new_member_grand_conjunction_of_aligned_systems/ Artifexity (talk) 17:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

As French is considered the language of diplomacy, I may now gracefully say bienvenue dans l'espace civilisé. Your future contributions are awaited with great expectations by the civilized races of the Euclid galaxy. I ask with careful political suavity that you carefully review the adjustments that have been made to your documentation of stellar objects, observing the adjustments that have been made so that they may correspond to the méthodes de documentation officielles with which we carefully portray the wonders of our shared galaxy. Merci, et puissiez-vous vivre longtemps et prospérer. Ddfairchild (talk) 05:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Cosmic Cooperative[ | ]

Cosmic Cooperative should not be listed on the Civilized space page. The Cosmic Cooperative is a troll group with malicious intent and targets other civilizations such as the Galactic Hub. Malicious organizations should not be listed or placed on the map.

Thank you for your anonymous opinion. Ddfairchild (talk) 05:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I would like to add that everyone has a place here. Maybe the story of the CC isn't as smooth as some other civs but they have done the work and belong in civilized space, and even if they cease to be they will be apart of space history. Intothedoor (talk) 20:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Cosmic Cooperative changes 02/06/2020[ | ]

The Cosmic Cooperative feels that the description listed on the page needs to be updated.

Cosmic Cooperative - is a direct democracy, high population civilization based in the Alpha Quadrant that focuses on discovery and construction. The Cosmic Cooperative does not have a leader; citizens vote for everything and elect a representative.

Thanks! Moon cookies1 (talk) 16:07, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

change has been made. Ddfairchild (talk) 19:43, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Formal request 01/31/2020[ | ]

The Black Star Order advance its official request to be added to the Civilized space page.

The Black Star Order has been added to the map. Welcome! --Artifexity (talk) 23:02, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Sorry, will the "navigation zone" section be updated too? 01/02/2020

Yes, as far as I can tell, all the requirements are met. I'm waiting for Ddfairchild's assessment. Once that is done, the page will be updated. --Artifexity (talk) 09:24, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I have reviewed your pages, and added in the missing sections, categories, etc. For future reference, review the changes so you'll be able to include those items on any additional pages. Your civ has been added to the civspace page, welcome to civilization! Ddfairchild (talk) 06:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Proposal to remove the United Corporate Alliance from the Civ page 01/29/2020[ | ]

There are several honorable individuals currently listed and I mean this as no insult but this alliance seem inactive and much of it has not been updated. I will not hide my feelings about this alliance, I am not a fan but there are some great companies like Vy'Kea Furniture Company, and Intergalactic Exploration Corporation, but many of the others seem incomplete. I actually don't think (under our wiki's own rules) this constitutes as an alliance as many of these companies don't have the required documentation (as far as I can tell). Over-all I feel it is a misrepresentation to our players to have this show-cased. As the games largest documented Company (InExCor) I would yield my opinion to user:PeaceBomb, if he was to take over and revamp this alliance I would drop my concerns; however, I hope he considers joining the Federation with me and together we could possibly create a true active business department... but I am getting off track.

bottom line - I do not think this alliance has the documentation or real support it needs to be showcased as a main NMS alliance that new players could become apart of. I am of course open to learning new information if it is available, thank you Intothedoor (talk) 23:38, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't agree with you. There are definitely more than 2-3 active companies. I frequently talk with the Gek Trading Federation owner on Discord and MegaCorp is still active there as well, AFAIK, as well as the active Celab Galactic Industries, and many others. A real concern up for debate would be the number of civilizations/companies needed to form a recognized alliance. IMO it should be at least 4 or 5 fully documented groups; and the Trinity Pact alliance should not be featured in the map, rather than removing the UCA, because it is merely a pact rather then a supranationalism/alliance. AGT also isn’t really an alliance, and they don’t have many separate groups anymore. CC citizens were hoping to form a supranationalism like the real world United Nations, something like United Galactic Nations, as somewhat of an alternative to the Federation, but not really, as it is definitely more discussion-focused. Right now the only real supranational alliances are the UCA and Federation, and UCA is a corporate alliance, so really, just the UFT. Winter naut (talk) 00:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

As the publisher of the map, I would like to point out that the legend on the map does not only refer to recognized alliances. The map tries to reveal the entire visible area of cooperation between civilizations, which is why the Trinity Pact is listed. The AGT is a special alliance. Their structure is difficult to decipher. The AGT is one of the first alliances in NMS. --Artifexity (talk) 19:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

(I would assume) There is a point at which we will have to move this group to 'inactive' if they do not update their information and provide documentation of their travels. History is as much a part of the wiki (and just as important) as current culture, my concern is old information can be misleading and I would rather see the wiki provide helpful information. The AGT has been a profound group since the beginning of this game and the alliance, as I see it, is the cross platform, cross culture (game and social media), cross galaxy play which is the group. If one was to be technical the group could split into galactic and regional groups which in-turn would form the basis of an Alliance. There is also a greater historical sentiment in their position (this is at least how I see it). You mention the Trinity Pack, but this discussion is not about who is on the map; however, they are also an XBox group which was formed at the beginning of that platforms introduction to the game, thus more historic than both of us.

My focus is specifically the business community and how we are presented. If each business needs 10 documented systems/pages and there needs to be 5 businesses to form an Alliance, this is a thin if not invalid alliance.Intothedoor (talk) 09:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

OK, Have done some research on the companies listed as making up the UCA as far as their activity on the wiki.

1) MegaCorp, CELAB Galactic Industries, Intergalactic Exploration Corporation, and Vy"kea Furniture Company all have an official index on the Companies page. This indicates that at one time, they were recognized as official companies.

2) The other seven companies listed as members do NOT have entries on the page, so never completed the process. These are as follows, with an indication as of the last time their embassy page was updated:

Aviszar Cartel - September 2019
Samone Corporation - December 2019
Ghost Enterprises - April 2019
The Romefeller Foundation - April 2019
Black Hole Suns - November 2019
ScrapGek Enterprises - January 2020
New Frontiers Incorporated - July 2019

From this list, I would consider Ghost Enterprises, The Romefeller Foundation, and New Frontiers questionable at best as far as being active, with the Aviszar Cartel a borderline case.

Having said that, I would say that there still appear to be enough companies that are active/sort of active to qualify. However, I do ask the following related question. The UCA has a recognition link on both the Company AND the CivSpace pages. It cannot be both a group of civilizations and a group of companies, as it is specifically related that it is company based. So should it really BE on both pages? And in truth, I also question whether the Federation should have a link on both pages. The Federation list that is currently on the wiki appears to contain only civspaces, and not companies. (of course, this list may not be complete - does anyone have an official answer as to whether or not the Fed accepts companies as members?)

So - IMHO based on current evidence, either either choose to leave the UCA and the Fed on both pages, or we remove the UCA from the CivSpace page and remove the Federation from the Companies page. Thoughts? Ddfairchild (talk) 20:56, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

The Federation also accepts companies. At the moment, 4 members of the Federation are officially recognized companies. GenBra Space Corp, RAIN, Galactic Trading Company and The Collective (Empire of Phantomium Marxium). If Oxalis Hotel Chain and Red Egion Motel Chain II (Eyfert Khannate) count, then the Federation has 6 active companies and can be recognized as an alliance on both pages.--Artifexity (talk) 22:23, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Is Oxalis an active concern? The release currently shows as Visions, and the page is missing a number of the standard Company sections. If Oxalis IS active, then the Headquarters page needs to be updated a bit. Red Egion Motel Chain is a new company, and is active. I've added the "federation = Yes" tag to the infobox for those where it is needed, other than Oxalis. If Oxalis is active, then the Fed will have the five needed companies and can be listed on the Company page. As for the UCA, I believe it is an acceptable Company alliance so will leave the link there. However, it is NOT a civspace alliance, so will drop the link from the CivSpace page.

And finally, we have never created a "new release" page for Companies like we have done for our CivSpaces. I will be doing that and removing any inactive civs. I will consider a civ inactive if their last wiki activity was more than six month ago. Ddfairchild (talk) 23:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to mention the Galactic Trading Company as a member of the Federation. In this respect, the Federation Allianz for Companies would also be possible without the Oxalis Hotel Chain. The Oxalis Hotel Chain is currently being renovated :) Otherwise, I agree with everything.--Artifexity (talk) 10:48, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the thought out response and research. My goal is to keep the business community alive and flourishing and I will continue this thru my political and personal channels in addition to keeping an eye on the wiki. If the UCA continues to stay in-date then I will not have any issues, I only want things to stay alive and not mislead any new players. I think the moves thus far are appropriate and we should review this in the future as things evolve. I would like to say one thing about the Federation, we are an open and active alliance for both Civilizations and Companies and every day we are bettering ourselves, I feel we should be represented on both pages because we accept both and in total we have the active numbers to show for it; we are the best place for any active company or civ to be (in my opinion). Intothedoor (talk) 23:31, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Updated the Embassy Page 01/09/2020[ | ]

Hello I updated the Lanny Poo Empires page so could it be added back to the galactic map.

Done. Welcome back! --Artifexity (talk) 12:10, 9 January 2020 (UTC)